I desire to open an honest discussion on how to correct a repetitive trend in foreign relations between Mexico and America. Since our country’s inception, we have had miserable relations with Mexico, to the point that I believe most diplomats and politicians refer to Mexico as the proverbial “Red-Headed Step Child”. I don’t want this to be a Mexico bashing or America bashing forum, otherwise, what’s the point right?
I harp a lot about Illegal Immigration being a plague to our way of life. By showcasing stories which illustrate the absurdity of border control versus foreign policy decisions by people who are clueless about diplomatic relations, I have hoped that my articles would illicit responses to get involved and become informed.
I am currently reading up on American History during this semester, and I tell you this because it has occurred to me that not much has changed in the way of Mexico-America relations since about 1900.
Mexico has always been run by some type of dictator, whether by military force, drug lords, or American intervention. Mexico has never had a truly democratic government run by its citizens. Does that make us bad people for trying to involve ourselves in their affairs?
Absolutely not. While we should recognize our responsibility in the fact that stability in Mexico has been a pipe dream, if we were not involved in how Mexico operates, I believe we would have an even worse illegal immigrant problem than what we are currently witnessing.
Case in point: 1913. Mexico was involved in a very large and bloody revolution. The poor essentially murdered the current President and instilled by coup general Victoriano Huerta. This revolution promoted a huge migration of Mexicans into the United States who, for the most part, spread out amongst the south western states. (New Mexico, Arizona, California, Texas, etc) This massive influx of frontier “illegals” also incited violence much the same way we witness today. (Gunfights with law enforcement, damage to property, etc.)
So what did our government do? President Woodrow Wilson basically did to the Military Dictator Huerta, what we did to the Russia/Afghanistan conflict. Supply weapons to “freedom fighters” who opposed the dictator, and let them do the dirty work. A “hands-off” approach in diplomatic relations as I like to call it.
Back then, I doubt little effort was made to promote “Nation Building”.
That also doesn’t make us terrible, but it does open the door of questions as to how different we are today, than back in Wilson’s era.
President Wilson I believe was trying to do what was right to help the impoverished citizens of Mexico, but I can only guess at his intentions. Much of my personal opinions are the same when we take a look at Ronald Reagan.
In the 1980’s little was done to stem the flow of illegals from Mexico into the U.S. It’s interesting to me when you look back on that time, we were going through a cold-war with Russia. At the same time combating an immigration headache. What surprises me most is that Russia never employed the tactics of Al-Qaeda to sneak into the country via Mexico’s porous border.
But to respond to the growing illegal immigration issues, President Reagan signed into law the Immigration Reform and Control Act. In this act, Reagan made a critical mistep in steming the flow of illegal immigration. Instead of putting a cork into the leaking dam, it only encouraged the cracks to widen.
a. Authorized legalization (i.e., temporary and then permanent resident status) for aliens who had resided in the United States in an unlawful status since January 1, 1982 (entering illegally or as temporary visitors with authorized stay expiring before that date or with the Government’s knowledge of their unlawful status before that date) and are not excludable.
b. Created sanctions prohibiting employers from knowingly hiring, recruiting, or referring for a fee aliens not authorized to work in the United States.
c. Increased enforcement at U.S. borders.
d. Created a new classification of seasonal agricultural worker and provisions for the legalization of certain such workers.
e. Extended the registry date (i.e., the date from which an alien has resided illegally and continuously in the United States and thus qualifies for adjustment to permanent resident status) from June 30, 1948 to January 1, 1972.
f. Authorized adjustment to permanent resident status for Cubans and Haitians who entered the United States without inspection and had continuously resided in country since January 1, 1982.
g. Increased the numerical limitation for immigrants admitted under the preference system for dependent areas from 600 to 5,000 beginning in fiscal year 1988.
h. Created a new special immigrant category for certain retired employees of international organizations and their families and a new nonimmigrant status for parents and children of such immigrants.
i. Created a nonimmigrant Visa Waiver Pilot program allowing certain aliens to visit the United States without applying for a nonimmigrant visa.
j. Allocated 5,000 nonpreference visas in each of fiscal years 1987 and 1988 for aliens born in countries from which immigration was adversely affected by the 1965 act.
Now, after reading the IRCA signed into law, do you see the problem? Currently, there are about 11+ million illegals and counting. Mexico has a government run by a “Presidente” that cares less about providing a solid economic future for his people, and more about burdening America with psuedo-exiled citizens who desire nothing more than to “find a job, provide for a family, etc.”
Our problem is that we still have a government in bed with Mexican leadership. We are essentially sweeping the problems of both country’s under a rug by not tackling this head on.
On one hand we have Mexico which is not respresentative of its citizens voice (even if they have “democratic” elections). They are either lacking the drive to work to better their country (which I doubt because they are hardworking people) or, they are simply fed up, and fleeing here because the only thing they have to fight here is law, rather than an inept and corrupt government. Our laws are easier to evade and fight, and I believe it’s more frustration to fight drug dealers who want you as a “mule” or dead, and a government that won’t combat a huge problem. Perhaps the lure of drug money is too much to stop it?
On the other hand, our government’s answer in the past has been to grant amnesty to people who violate our laws, care little about the common people of this country who have made America what it is today.
It’s not a simple problem, and if we look at how to fix it, that will not be an easy road to go down.
My solutions would be to:
- Close the borders down. Period. If you want to cross, either you go through a checkpoint, or you fly in, either way, some guy is looking at your passport, and either saying yes, or go home.
- Use the Homeland Security to go after all illegal immigrants that currently reside here and give them a ticket back home. No Amnesty. Businesses who employ illegals should be punished and fined heavily. We have laws here, either abide by them or be the next Enron scandal.
- Help to change Mexico. We are rebuilding Afghanistan and Iraq, why can’t we effect positive change in Mexico? If they did more to promote companies, employment, education, and RESPONSIBILITY, they could be an economic superpower. Of course, that also means cleaning up the corruption, kicking out the drug dealers who ARE embedded in and won’t go without a fight.
And finally,
- We have to stop looking at America as a free-for-all. While we are THE most charitable country, (and I’m not talking government charity, I am talking about private charity), we cannot solve the worlds problems all at once. We need to focus on the things we can solve and then go after the more complex tasks.
Illegal immigration needs to stop. No country can afford to sustain the entire world population within its borders socially, or economically. That’s half the reason we have countries and not one unified planet with seperate state territories.
Secondly, your average Joe citizen simply wants to provide for his or her family. Be it a roof over their heads, decent meals, transportation, education, or what have you. If you are going to lobby for global rights, why can’t we start there? Equal rights for every global citizen, in every country. Once you solve the economics, you can begin to focus on the other problems.
What say you?

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A. J. 02.21.06 at 7:01 pm
America became what it is due to immigration. But the Mexico situation is out of control, but there’s really no way to solve it. They could shut the border if they wanted to, but they won’t. So many business owners rely on migrant workers, it’s ridiculous.
A funny idea is to just make Mexico part of the U.S…and be done with it.
So much of American values is built upon hard work and responsibility. We’re fighters too. It doesn’t register with us that people in the world allow themselves to be taken advantage of or controlled. Vietnam is a good example. The normal Vietnamese people would help the American forces and then turn around and help the Vietcong. All they cared about was working the rice paddy. They didn’t care who was in charge as long as their basic needs were met.
I guess my point is if people are not willing to stand up and make something of their country, who are we to step in and “help” them or force them?
A. J. 02.21.06 at 7:01 pm
America became what it is due to immigration. But the Mexico situation is out of control, but there’s really no way to solve it. They could shut the border if they wanted to, but they won’t. So many business owners rely on migrant workers, it’s ridiculous.
A funny idea is to just make Mexico part of the U.S…and be done with it.
So much of American values is built upon hard work and responsibility. We’re fighters too. It doesn’t register with us that people in the world allow themselves to be taken advantage of or controlled. Vietnam is a good example. The normal Vietnamese people would help the American forces and then turn around and help the Vietcong. All they cared about was working the rice paddy. They didn’t care who was in charge as long as their basic needs were met.
I guess my point is if people are not willing to stand up and make something of their country, who are we to step in and “help” them or force them?
David Nick 02.21.06 at 7:30 pm
A.J., you make a couple of interesting points.
1) You said: “But the Mexico situation is out of control, but there’s really no way to solve it.”
That’s defeatist. There are solutions to the crisis, but you have to take an open honest look at them. Most aren’t willing to do that yet, but the momentum IS building
2) You also said: “I guess my point is if people are not willing to stand up and make something of their country, who are we to step in and “help†them or force them?”
If we don’t step in sooner, rather than later, it will simply cost us more. More money, more resources, more red tape. To be proactive is beneficial for us as well as them.
David Nick 02.21.06 at 7:30 pm
A.J., you make a couple of interesting points.
1) You said: “But the Mexico situation is out of control, but there’s really no way to solve it.”
That’s defeatist. There are solutions to the crisis, but you have to take an open honest look at them. Most aren’t willing to do that yet, but the momentum IS building
2) You also said: “I guess my point is if people are not willing to stand up and make something of their country, who are we to step in and “help†them or force them?”
If we don’t step in sooner, rather than later, it will simply cost us more. More money, more resources, more red tape. To be proactive is beneficial for us as well as them.
A. J. 02.21.06 at 7:57 pm
“That’s defeatist. There are solutions to the crisis, but you have to take an open honest look at them. Most aren’t willing to do that yet, but the momentum IS building.”
If they wanted to control the borders, they could. There’s reasons why they won’t get tough on the border. We do things with our own interests at heart first. For example, we wouldn’t be “liberating” Iraq if Iraq had no natural resourses or strategic advantage.
“If we don’t step in sooner, rather than later, it will simply cost us more. More money, more resources, more red tape. To be proactive is beneficial for us as well as them.”
Stepping into Vietnam didn’t do a thing, and it cost us a ton of life and resources. It remains to be seen what will happen in Iraq. One of the headlines today is the Iraq government is telling us to stay out of their affairs.
A. J. 02.21.06 at 7:57 pm
“That’s defeatist. There are solutions to the crisis, but you have to take an open honest look at them. Most aren’t willing to do that yet, but the momentum IS building.”
If they wanted to control the borders, they could. There’s reasons why they won’t get tough on the border. We do things with our own interests at heart first. For example, we wouldn’t be “liberating” Iraq if Iraq had no natural resourses or strategic advantage.
“If we don’t step in sooner, rather than later, it will simply cost us more. More money, more resources, more red tape. To be proactive is beneficial for us as well as them.”
Stepping into Vietnam didn’t do a thing, and it cost us a ton of life and resources. It remains to be seen what will happen in Iraq. One of the headlines today is the Iraq government is telling us to stay out of their affairs.
Aaron Brazell 02.21.06 at 11:51 pm
“Make Mexico a part of America”?
That’s a sure-fire way to ensure that your liberal nanny-state mentality becomes further entrenched, what with higher taxes, more welfare and centralized medicine, eh? ;-)
I know you’re joking but you gotta think… Mexico is possibly the poorest country (populous wealth) in the America’s after Venezuela… Assume that albatross? I think not…
Aaron 02.21.06 at 11:51 pm
“Make Mexico a part of America”?
That’s a sure-fire way to ensure that your liberal nanny-state mentality becomes further entrenched, what with higher taxes, more welfare and centralized medicine, eh? ;-)
I know you’re joking but you gotta think… Mexico is possibly the poorest country (populous wealth) in the America’s after Venezuela… Assume that albatross? I think not…
A. J. 02.22.06 at 11:38 am
It’s a joke because nobody wants to actually step up and do anything about it.
Telling me I have a “liberal nanny-state mentality” is over the top. Sure, liberals encourage a more social attitude but the other extreme is worse. There is no reason why the richest, most powerful country in the world has millions of kids without health care, elderly who can’t afford prescription drugs, underpaid teachers, and the lowest minimum wage relative to cost of living since the 30s!…But we can plunge our country into debt spending hundreds of billions fighting a phony war in Iraq. This country is obsessed with money and we live to work instead of work to live.
I’d rather have a congress that I have a part in electing make the rules rather than corporations who only care about the bottom line. The whole lobbyist ordeal gave us a look at how much power big corporations have over a Republican controlled congress. Democrats aren’t perfect, but since Republicans have had control lobbyist activities have skyrocketed…
That’s just as bad, if not worse than your dreaded social programs that actually aim to help people rather than line the pockets of CEOs.
A. J. 02.22.06 at 11:38 am
It’s a joke because nobody wants to actually step up and do anything about it.
Telling me I have a “liberal nanny-state mentality” is over the top. Sure, liberals encourage a more social attitude but the other extreme is worse. There is no reason why the richest, most powerful country in the world has millions of kids without health care, elderly who can’t afford prescription drugs, underpaid teachers, and the lowest minimum wage relative to cost of living since the 30s!…But we can plunge our country into debt spending hundreds of billions fighting a phony war in Iraq. This country is obsessed with money and we live to work instead of work to live.
I’d rather have a congress that I have a part in electing make the rules rather than corporations who only care about the bottom line. The whole lobbyist ordeal gave us a look at how much power big corporations have over a Republican controlled congress. Democrats aren’t perfect, but since Republicans have had control lobbyist activities have skyrocketed…
That’s just as bad, if not worse than your dreaded social programs that actually aim to help people rather than line the pockets of CEOs.
Aaron Brazell 02.22.06 at 12:15 pm
Perhaps over the top, but the truth nonetheless. There IS a reason why the richest, most powerful country in the world has all of these things.
1. Money - we don’t have the money as a nation to support all of these programs.
2. We can get money with raising taxes and I encourage you to send a check to your Congressmen or Senator if you’d like to volunteer for such higher taxes. I’m not willing.
3. Where is the State and Local governments, the private organizations, the faith based organizations… the parents!… in all of this mess? Shouldn’t accountability for the outcome of children lie with these more ept groups? Why should Uncle Sam pay for it?
Aaron 02.22.06 at 12:15 pm
Perhaps over the top, but the truth nonetheless. There IS a reason why the richest, most powerful country in the world has all of these things.
1. Money - we don’t have the money as a nation to support all of these programs.
2. We can get money with raising taxes and I encourage you to send a check to your Congressmen or Senator if you’d like to volunteer for such higher taxes. I’m not willing.
3. Where is the State and Local governments, the private organizations, the faith based organizations… the parents!… in all of this mess? Shouldn’t accountability for the outcome of children lie with these more ept groups? Why should Uncle Sam pay for it?
A. J. 02.22.06 at 1:06 pm
Exactly, where is everyone?? Nobody wants to part with their money, yet everyone complains how bad everything is.
What’s so scary about the federal government? We elect them!….If everyone gave a damn, there wouldn’t be anything wrong with the federal government. If people held the government accountable, we wouldn’t have to worry where our tax dollars go. There is nothing scary about the government if people work to make it the govenrment they want it to be. Do you want a government that’s elected by the people in control, or have major corporations be in control and crafting the rules for you to ultimately benefit them.
A. J. 02.22.06 at 1:06 pm
Exactly, where is everyone?? Nobody wants to part with their money, yet everyone complains how bad everything is.
What’s so scary about the federal government? We elect them!….If everyone gave a damn, there wouldn’t be anything wrong with the federal government. If people held the government accountable, we wouldn’t have to worry where our tax dollars go. There is nothing scary about the government if people work to make it the govenrment they want it to be. Do you want a government that’s elected by the people in control, or have major corporations be in control and crafting the rules for you to ultimately benefit them.
Aaron Brazell 02.22.06 at 1:18 pm
Very idealistic of you, AJ. Maybe if I think hard enough, maybe things will just magically begin to work in the federal government. Maybe if I generate enough positive vibes, that can make a difference. Get real. You know as well as I do that government does NOT respond to the people. Not in a global sense and not when it comes to things that matter. Government is about one thing - power. In an idealistic world it is about Constitutionality and the role of government. In an ideal world, the Declaration of Independence would be a part of the Constitution - “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed”.
You and I both know that it takes tremendous amounts of ground swell and legislators fearing for their jobs for real change to occur. Let’s get our heads out of the sand and realize that the America according to Thomas Jefferson is not the America of today and it will never be this way.
Keep in mind the saga of Rome. Rome was a Republic until one day it was no longer a Republic, it was an Empire. History repeats itself and it has as long as their has been history.
Aaron 02.22.06 at 1:18 pm
Very idealistic of you, AJ. Maybe if I think hard enough, maybe things will just magically begin to work in the federal government. Maybe if I generate enough positive vibes, that can make a difference. Get real. You know as well as I do that government does NOT respond to the people. Not in a global sense and not when it comes to things that matter. Government is about one thing - power. In an idealistic world it is about Constitutionality and the role of government. In an ideal world, the Declaration of Independence would be a part of the Constitution - “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed”.
You and I both know that it takes tremendous amounts of ground swell and legislators fearing for their jobs for real change to occur. Let’s get our heads out of the sand and realize that the America according to Thomas Jefferson is not the America of today and it will never be this way.
Keep in mind the saga of Rome. Rome was a Republic until one day it was no longer a Republic, it was an Empire. History repeats itself and it has as long as their has been history.
Aaron Brazell 02.22.06 at 1:20 pm
Let me sum all of that up - I am a realist. I am neither an optimist, nor am I a pessimist. I’m a realist and the reality is that 1) Yes there is a need for social change, 2) society must provide a way for the less privileged and 3) government should not do it because they are neither equipped nor fundamentally capable of doing this job.
Aaron 02.22.06 at 1:20 pm
Let me sum all of that up - I am a realist. I am neither an optimist, nor am I a pessimist. I’m a realist and the reality is that 1) Yes there is a need for social change, 2) society must provide a way for the less privileged and 3) government should not do it because they are neither equipped nor fundamentally capable of doing this job.
A. J. 02.22.06 at 1:32 pm
All I said was if everyone cared or paid attention things wouldn’t be the way they are. The sad truth is, most people don’t care until it effects them directly.
The government will never be perfect, no government is or ever will be. But I know what side I’m on…
If you want to talk about being real, then you are right on about America being the Empire…Getting real is knowing we have a President who believes in a unitary executive… That is much scarier than after school programs, food kitchens, or free health clinics that are paid for by tax dollars.
A. J. 02.22.06 at 1:32 pm
All I said was if everyone cared or paid attention things wouldn’t be the way they are. The sad truth is, most people don’t care until it effects them directly.
The government will never be perfect, no government is or ever will be. But I know what side I’m on…
If you want to talk about being real, then you are right on about America being the Empire…Getting real is knowing we have a President who believes in a unitary executive… That is much scarier than after school programs, food kitchens, or free health clinics that are paid for by tax dollars.
David Nick 02.22.06 at 3:13 pm
Getting real is knowing we have a President who believes in a unitary executive
Ummm….the executive branch is already “unitary”. There is 1 guy at the top
uni-tary-
adj.
1 of a unit or units
2 of, based on, or characterized by unity
3 having the nature of or used as a unit
Just a clarification A.J.
:)
David Nick 02.22.06 at 3:13 pm
Getting real is knowing we have a President who believes in a unitary executive
Ummm….the executive branch is already “unitary”. There is 1 guy at the top
uni-tary-
adj.
1 of a unit or units
2 of, based on, or characterized by unity
3 having the nature of or used as a unit
Just a clarification A.J.
:)
A. J. 02.22.06 at 3:18 pm
1 guy at the top - who is not a king.
You know what I mean…This administration thinks it can bypass law and bypass Congress simply because Bush has the title of President.
A. J. 02.22.06 at 3:18 pm
1 guy at the top - who is not a king.
You know what I mean…This administration thinks it can bypass law and bypass Congress simply because Bush has the title of President.
David Nick 02.22.06 at 3:51 pm
A.J., I know you’re not stupid, but you do know about our Government’s series of Checks & Balances right?
Supreme Court can check the Legislative & Executive branches of gov’t
Congress can check the Supreme Court & Executive branches
Executive branch can check Congress & Supreme Court branches
I realize that you likely are aware of that. With saying that, even if Bush “thinks” he’s king, don’t you believe that the Supreme Court, and ESPECIALLY the Congress would act quick to put him into place if he got out of line?
No President believes they are defacto “King” when elected. While they can act on behalf of the country, we have granted laws to enable the President to act on the best interests of Americans.
Your statement about them thinking they’re “Kings” is just wrong.
David Nick 02.22.06 at 3:51 pm
A.J., I know you’re not stupid, but you do know about our Government’s series of Checks & Balances right?
Supreme Court can check the Legislative & Executive branches of gov’t
Congress can check the Supreme Court & Executive branches
Executive branch can check Congress & Supreme Court branches
I realize that you likely are aware of that. With saying that, even if Bush “thinks” he’s king, don’t you believe that the Supreme Court, and ESPECIALLY the Congress would act quick to put him into place if he got out of line?
No President believes they are defacto “King” when elected. While they can act on behalf of the country, we have granted laws to enable the President to act on the best interests of Americans.
Your statement about them thinking they’re “Kings” is just wrong.
A. J. 02.22.06 at 5:15 pm
Checks and balances is what we need…We finally have Congress coming together opposing this port deal. (It’s so obvious that people in the administration are benefiting personally because of their ties to this company)… It underscores how this administration operates. They are very secretive, engage in cronyism, and they conistantly go around Congress or give their own interpretation of existing law. That’s what I meant by the President acting like he has more power than he actually does…Congress just needs a backbone and they are finally growing one.
A. J. 02.22.06 at 5:15 pm
Checks and balances is what we need…We finally have Congress coming together opposing this port deal. (It’s so obvious that people in the administration are benefiting personally because of their ties to this company)… It underscores how this administration operates. They are very secretive, engage in cronyism, and they conistantly go around Congress or give their own interpretation of existing law. That’s what I meant by the President acting like he has more power than he actually does…Congress just needs a backbone and they are finally growing one.
Charles Curtis 02.25.06 at 7:58 pm
One thing you can do is email the Senate Judiciary committee that will begin debating a new immigration bill this week. The proposal of the committee’s chairman, Senator Specter, look a lot like amnesty to me.
Charles Curtis 02.25.06 at 7:58 pm
One thing you can do is email the Senate Judiciary committee that will begin debating a new immigration bill this week. The proposal of the committee’s chairman, Senator Specter, look a lot like amnesty to me.
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